23 Nov 09, 06:40 Charonical: By definition, God exists. God is, and always has and will be the infinite, almighty and indescrible, transcendant and existing beyond physical reality. Now, conceptualize the world as you know it. For any conceptual boundary you can create for the world, there will always be something beyond it. Take this conception to infinity, and what is beyond it both EXISTS and is INDESCRIBIBLE. Hence, by definition, God exists. |
23 Nov 09, 05:23 Tash: It doesn't matter anyway because Pepsi is still the best drink on the planet, followed by ranch dressing and then maybe egg nog. |
23 Nov 09, 03:48 9v: Sarcasm crits bklynboy for 548,688 damage. bklynboy dies. |
23 Nov 09, 02:35 bklynboy: lol @ bytaithaih that's just silly. you sound like a stubborn 8 yr old who believes in santa-clause. |
23 Nov 09, 02:18 BytEfLUSh: Please stop that conversation. I am deeply offended by what you wrote. You don't understand how much it means to have something to believe in, you don't get it and you can't disprove it. God exists. I believe in Flying Spaghetti Monster, and so do many many other people. You cannot question our faith. There is no proof that FSM doesn't exist! |
23 Nov 09, 00:26 Vandal: There Is no god! There is only a goldfish in a bowl, who is imagining all this, for the next 0.8 seconds... |
22 Nov 09, 22:02 Satan: Ah, the plebians and their imagination... |
22 Nov 09, 20:50 Rokakoma: God just created universe. And he left for us, to find out all of the rules of that universe. We call those rules: science. |
22 Nov 09, 10:28 Tash: I just figure if God exists he created science first and then the world within the laws of science, and everything he does involving the world would be within the laws. There's no point in our arguing it though, none of us will have anything beyond our own personal proof that matters only to us, and we'll all find out one way or the other when we die anyway. |
22 Nov 09, 08:22 Escoban: @Shinobu, FOr the simple reason that many religions (not all) speak of an omnipotent god. Omnipotent obviously meaning, all powerful or power without limit. If you have limitless power, it would be just as easy to help someone as it is to not help him at all. |
22 Nov 09, 07:34 threefinger: as to the whole religion thing (that i apologize for helping to start War) i believe that all things have their place. i dont hold to any particular faith but i know religion has helped many many people survive difficult parts of their lives and has earned a place in this world. maybe one day religion will have saved as many lives as it has taken over the course of history. |
22 Nov 09, 07:29 threefinger: i might be willing to turn my mind over but that would require extensive surgery and would make me see the world from a rather upside down perspective |
22 Nov 09, 06:14 Destino: @shinobu My answer is... guess what... There is no such a thing as a personal God, therefor, it cant perform any miraculous cure, but people keep claiming that God does miracles all the time, that some person had a cancer vanished by God's hands, or had his sight back , but you never heard about a amputee geting his leg or arm back... My personal answer to that is clear. But lets put a stone over this discution, as I said before, we will never have a winner, no one will turn his mind over |
22 Nov 09, 05:08 gradivus: Unless praying changes something within yourself, which allows the positive change to happen. Don't be so quick to think you understand everything about how the universe works! ![]() |
22 Nov 09, 04:23 hrimhari: wow, I lost a religion discussion! Damn... Well, I don't believe in any sort of god... except Odin and friends! No really, it just doesn't work for me. If there was a God, I wouldn't expect him to want us praying all the time wanting favors. If there wasn't a God, well.. no use to pray. So it's a lose-lose situation. |
22 Nov 09, 03:44 gradivus: Yes Manos, blob drool. |
22 Nov 09, 01:36 Tash: The liquid is drool. |
22 Nov 09, 01:21 Vandal: I just reread 72, and looked up History of O. Gianna, you rule... |
22 Nov 09, 00:56 manos1234: is the liquid bellow the blob what I think it is!?!? |
21 Nov 09, 20:53 Random Chick: Holy crap! The Eldritch Blob is freakin' me out! |
21 Nov 09, 19:10 Dr. Shiny: @GM War: Wait, so you're saying you're petty? |
21 Nov 09, 19:06 gradivus: 181: Groupies |
21 Nov 09, 16:22 norleaf: Can anyone remember which episode Fred the Dred shows pictures that girls have sent him on the internet. I have been looking for it but I cant find it... :S |
21 Nov 09, 16:00 gradivus: I've wondered about that. Do you think the Ainur had free will at all, or was that granted only to the Children of Illuvator? Otherwise, Manwë certainly dropped the ball when it came to Men. The Valar totally turned their backs on Men, leaving Melkor as the only of the major Ainur to teach them. And then the Uttermost West were surprised and blamed Men for turning to Melkor? What did they expect! |
21 Nov 09, 13:00 Tash: Morgoth was actually the good god in Middle Earth. His discord was part of Iluvatar's plan and he was the one vala who did not turn his back on their duty to the land they formed. Shunned by the others, he was still the one who watched for both elf and man while the rest were busy partying! |
21 Nov 09, 11:16 manos1234: money is power |
21 Nov 09, 10:48 Chayton: @ Red Ivan - although it looks like it now, I wasnt actually replying to your post - amarr was spamming the board with Scriptures quotes from eve online, since deleted - making my posts look a little odd now ^^ |
21 Nov 09, 08:44 gradivus: "Making others die" is rarely about money. It's about obtaining power, or these days, killing "infidels" for a religion. |
21 Nov 09, 08:35 manos1234: Nerf the importance of money so that people will stop making others die so that they get more themselves. |
21 Nov 09, 08:33 manos1234: however IMO it would be good to have a divine GM who sorts out people who exploit rules and values of the society (such as religion, laws , money etc) for personal gain and give them a perma ban. |
21 Nov 09, 08:01 shinobu: I believe in god , but I do not believe that God will always create miracles to help us all. Its stupid to think that , we are HUMANS , we have to find a way to survive on our own , we dont need someone to take care of us. |
21 Nov 09, 07:57 shinobu: @ Destino , The better question is Why should God Do it? Give me a really good reason why an Existence higher than us , should always come and help us when we have problems ? |
21 Nov 09, 06:48 stargazer01: Not to offend but as a non-believer this is one of my own favorite passages "If only you would be altogether silent! For you, that would be wisdom." (Job 13:5) |
21 Nov 09, 05:46 Darchane: Hey, cool. There's a comic above here. |
21 Nov 09, 05:18 Destino: i love this comic, love your work Gianna, I hope you keep entertaining us believers and no believers alike, during a long time, for the sake to keep us away from each other troath! |
21 Nov 09, 05:15 Destino: I just whant to post a question to the believers, who trully believe on miracles, why God does not cure amputees, I sure canot prove that there is no God out there, but this is not a good argument to prove God's existence, between another little facts, after gattering facts, organizing it on my mind I think I can have only one option left, that there is no God, but as I said before, Its my conclusion and my choice. |
21 Nov 09, 05:10 Destino: lol, as I said earlier, another religion discution! no winners, just contenders, an Atheist can turn the mind of a believer, this goes to the believers too, choises like that are made based on personal experience education and brain capacity. |
21 Nov 09, 04:31 AIW: "Atheists believe with certainty that god does not exist" No, actually we don't. Being certain about something that can't be proven would mean faith. Atheists simply choose, in the absence of convincing evidence, to disbelieve in a god (much like the tooth fairy). An agnostic is someone who gives equal credence to the existence, or non-existence, of a god (or in a purer sense, to every single god ever worshipped!). Atheist motto: "There's probably no god so stop worrying and enjoy your life!" |
21 Nov 09, 03:38 gradivus: I think they're scripture from some game universe religion, Sino. |
21 Nov 09, 03:25 Sino: Why are there scripture quotes in the CBox of a webcomic? |
21 Nov 09, 03:16 gradivus: Beware my gom jabbar, Red Ivan! ![]() |
21 Nov 09, 02:55 Red Ivan: Chayton, Simple enough — live humanely, and good fortunes will befall you (or more like collect the fruit your humane deeds bore)... Or lead a life of villainy, cruelty, or simple meanness and be miserable and wretched on your deathbed. And it doesn't matter much if you believe in some diety, or just something out there, or nothing at all. I only disagree with the fear point. Fear is the mind killer, I find that people do stupid things out of fear, harm stuff around them just to evade. |
21 Nov 09, 02:40 desolation0: @theolog ... Well, if I didn't believe in God, which I do, I would think God more of a crutch to people who worry there is no accountability for one's own actions in regular life. The folks who feel weak, and want to know there is some divine justice waiting for the sinners of the world. -- Personally, I just think there's one religion and one god (sort of) that all the faiths have touched on, but human free will has screwed up the message. |
21 Nov 09, 01:57 GM War: I think we can do without interminable scriptural ramblings. One proselytizing quotation per customer, Amarr. |
21 Nov 09, 01:54 Amarr Victor: You will find the Answer. i fyou read what was posted before i started to post. ![]() |
21 Nov 09, 01:52 Chayton: but what was the point? |
21 Nov 09, 01:50 Amarr Victor: see was not so hard to find out. |
21 Nov 09, 01:50 Chayton: yeah.. but.. EVE Online? *sigh* |
21 Nov 09, 01:48 Amarr Victor: Chayton our scriptures cover many things. Only an Human truly understands what I mean, but the Scriptures are all - they are law, tradition, science, philosophy, history and prayer. There is no separation, but everything that a man need know is contained in the scriptures. |
21 Nov 09, 01:27 gradivus: "When on high the heaven had not been named, firm ground below had not been called by name, when primordial Apsu, their begetter, and Mummu-Tiamat, she who bore them all, Their waters mingled as a single body, No reed hut had sprung forth, no marshland had appeared, None of the gods had been brought into being, And none bore a name, and no destinies determined, then it was that the gods were formed in the midst of heaven." - Babylonian creation myth |
21 Nov 09, 01:24 Red Ivan: Melkor's dissonance and gaussian dispersion will unrevel the true beauty among lifeless perfectioon of Illuvatar's symmetry. |
21 Nov 09, 01:21 Amarr Victor: "In the beginning all things were as one. God parted them and breathed life into his creation Divided the parts and gave each its place And unto each, bestowed purpose" - The Scriptures, Book I 1:4 |
21 Nov 09, 01:18 FormerElf: Iluvatar's chorus created Middle Earth and all it's inhabitants. Disbelievers will face Morgoth and his lieutentant, Sauron. (Um, guys? Lighten up? please) |
21 Nov 09, 00:42 TheoloG: God is a Crutch Concept Contrived by groups and/or individuals who cannot accept the fact That their Actions, Both Good and Especially Bad , can not be changed, and that they Ultimatly are RESPONSABLE for all that happens arround them thru the course of their actions/inactions. Ultimatly God is a attempt to absolve themselves of that Responsibility. Noone will forgive you, no devil made you do it, no miracle will happen, aside thru YOU and others there. I subscribe to Heinliens thinking.... |
21 Nov 09, 00:38 gradivus: You can only deny something if you are sure it might exist? That makes no sense. People who see no reason to believe that God exists, but are not certain that He doesn't, are agnostics. Atheists believe with certainty that God does not exist. |
21 Nov 09, 00:17 HSishi: Well, even an Atheist belives in a certain way that God(s) exist - it's just you can only deny something if you are sure it (might) exist. To *follow* any "told so god-given" rules is another thing but following human standards (no unnecessary kills, no cruelty etc.) works for me . |
20 Nov 09, 23:24 gradivus: Seriously, as an atheist on what you base your belief that there is no God? Are you really an agnostic, or do you really believe as a certain fact that God does not exist, and how are you certain? |
20 Nov 09, 22:06 Chayton: Definitely with you on that one Destino |
20 Nov 09, 20:21 Destino: hoh, yeah, religion discution! i love those, we usualy have a winner... (personaly Im an Atheist, but thats me, you can choose what mumbojumbo you believe, just dont botter me, or try to bomb my house, or any schollbus, or burn wiches, or burn abortion clinics, etc, etc, etc |
20 Nov 09, 17:59 GM War: I exist, and I do intervene. Case closed. |
20 Nov 09, 17:57 gradivus: Maybe because sentient beings are responsible for their own behavior and must enjoy or suffer the repercussions thereof. Divine intervention would negate free will. A god who had to constantly step in to contravene the natural laws of his own universe because of what people did would be a very petty god indeed. |
20 Nov 09, 17:39 manos1234: my main problem about religions is that I wonder why there is no divine intervention against those people who knowngly destroy the enviroment and lives of other people for money |
20 Nov 09, 17:03 hrimhari: Gotta be the faith option. I'm the arrogant one ![]() |
20 Nov 09, 17:02 threefinger: i dont know bout god but ive met Jesus...actually more than one...did he start outsourcing? |
20 Nov 09, 15:34 gradivus: Tell me Angry, does your certainty in the non-existence of God stem from some kind of religious faith, or are you arrogant enough to believe that you personally know the ultimate reality of the universe? |
20 Nov 09, 13:43 Angry-at-France: The notion of a god is as preposperous as the sun revolving around a flat earth. It is a state of mind inherited by those who feel they need someone to help them, or just plain idiots. |
20 Nov 09, 11:29 Rokakoma: There is God! And God loves simple people and gamers. |
20 Nov 09, 11:27 Rokakoma: Booom! |
20 Nov 09, 11:06 Jozzy: amo amas amat |
20 Nov 09, 09:09 Master Steven: you can* |
20 Nov 09, 09:09 Master Steven: you cant cut the crap now, before I start with Homer and Odysseia |
20 Nov 09, 01:56 Dissident: Pie Jesu dominae donaes requiem |
19 Nov 09, 23:15 hrimhari: And I thought that French was complicated x.x |
19 Nov 09, 21:29 Master Steven: yea, now the parents will sent their kids here to learn literature |
19 Nov 09, 21:20 gradivus: Gee, what a literate shout board this is! |
19 Nov 09, 21:05 gadimus: Sed a lectus magna, ac sodales lorem. Nunc vulputate condimentum elit, et euismod nunc interdum id. Vestibulum auctor sodales semper. Suspendisse potenti. Nullam vel lacus metus! |
19 Nov 09, 20:03 GM War: Si verum est, non tum vitae discimus, sed scholae! |
19 Nov 09, 19:25 Master Steven: Gianna I'm sorry for the whole spam thing =P, can't wait for the next episode |
19 Nov 09, 19:24 Master Steven: and ancient greek isn't something special to learn.. it is for us GREEKS cause it's our culture, but for a german, an englander or something it's nothing.. you aint translate anything!!! someone did that already! so.. no use |
19 Nov 09, 19:22 Master Steven: @Tei If you think that ancient greek is worth learning then yes modern greek is worth learning too. |